West End Overhang Continued

Day #112

November 17, 2019 – Today I am framing the second span of the porch roof overhang on the west end of the new porch. Yesterday I completed the first span. The work today will involve some demolition of the existing overhang on the old cottage roof and some framing around the the vent pipe. Though not big deal I need to exercise caution working around the vent. Because it is PVC, it can easily be snapped off if I hit it with any of the framing boards.

Porch roof overhang.
First span of the porch roof overhang framed yesterday.


After removing the tarps I cut and removed the existing overhang from the old cottage roof. The old overhang was built by simply running the roof decking past the sidewall by one foot. It is one inch thick oak plank and was never closed in with any type of soffit. As a result we have numerous bird, bee and wasp nests to deal with during the season. Soon, the overhangs around the entire cottage are going to have soffit which will eliminate these pests.

Oak Roof Planking
Old overhang demo. One inch oak planking.
Overhang at Vent Pipe
Overhang demo at vent pipe.
Exiting Overhang Demolition
Existing overhang demo complete.

New Framing

After the demo of the existing overhang I built out an extension to the ridge board to accept the second span edge joist. The edge joist installation follows. It attaches to the end of the first span edge joist and the ridge board extension.

Ridge Board Extension - West End Overhang
Extending the ridge board for the edge joist.
Second Span Edge Joist - West End Overhang
Second span edge joist installed.

Similar to the first span once the edge joist is in place I am able to frame in the outriggers to fully complete the framing for the west end overhang.

Outriggers At Vent Pipe - West End Overhang
Outrigger framing at the vent pipe.
Second Span Outriggers
Additional outriggers framed into the west end overhang.

At the end of the day I have to put the blue tarps back over the roof opening to keep the inside dry. So far I haven’t had any leaks inside the cottage. Knock on wood.

Dry In
Tarps installed to maintain dry in until next time.

In the next installment I will place the last of the plywood roof sheathing and roofing felt on this new overhang framing. Stay tuned, the renovation continues.

Porch Roof Overhang – West Side

Day #111

November 16, 2019 – The goal for this weekend is to frame the porch roof overhang on the west side of the deck. The west side is at the pavilion end of the deck. I am getting closer to the completion of the roof and this is the last of the roof framing for the new porch. The first overhang was framed way back here: Overhang Framing At New Kitchen Addition

First things first, I remove the blue tarps to expose the open roof. Next I extend the framing out from second to the last joist to establish a one foot overhang. These extensions are called outriggers. With one outrigger extended and the fascia board cut to the correct length, I install the last roof joist, i.e. the edge joist, along the overhang.

Blue Tarp - Porch Roof Overhang
Open roof covered with blue tarps.
Outrigger extended to create a one foot overhang.
2nd Outrigger
Fascia board extended to create the bottom of the porch roof overhang.
Edge Joist
The last roof joist along the edge of the overhang.

After the edge joist is installed additional outriggers are placed to complete the overhang. The outriggers are 16′ inches apart to facilitate the installation of plywood roof decking with minimal cutting and minimum waste.

Framing additional outriggers.
Overhang Ladder Framing - Porch Roof Overhang
Outriggers and edge joist along the overhang.
Outriggers and Edge Joist - Porch Roof Overhang
Porch roof overhang framing.

The framing you see in the pictures above establishes the overhang from the outside of the new porch up to the existing wall of the cottage. I have been calling this the first span of the new roof in previous posts so I’ll be consistent. This is the first span of porch roof overhang on the western side of the deck. Amen.

Framing the porch roof overhang involves more cutting and measuring so it takes me a little longer to complete. This is it for today. Tomorrow I will frame the overhang on the second span of roof along the western side.


My last blog in 2019 was published on December 5th and it covered day #110. As often happens, life gets in the way, and it forces you in a different direction. In my case, it stopped my writing for a short while.

I would like to record as accurate a transcript as I can of the cottage renovation. To that end, I am picking up where I left off last fall. Over the next several days or weeks there will be a flurry of posts as I attempt to get caught up. If it’s too much, feel free to opt out or write me back and I’ll remove you from the list.

Thankx…..Gyeem Raj-Du-Kamar

2nd Span Roof Rafters

Day #110

November 02, 2019 – Back after a few weekends off. I’ll be framing the 2nd span of rafters in the last roof section. First I remove the temporary weather protection (blue tarps) to expose the old roof planks.

Temporary Weather Protection
Peeling back the blur tarps.

Old Oak Roof Planking

Old oak roof planking exposed.

With the tarps removed I begin cutting and removing the top 7 or 8 rows of the oak roof planking. This gives me access to the existing ridge board.

After I have access to the existing ridge board I can install the galvanized joist hangers and begin setting the 2nd span roof rafters.

2nd Span Roof Rafters
Ridge beam exposed, galvanized hangers and 2nd span roof rafters.

The process of roof plank demo, hanger installation and rafter setting continues until I reach the end of the new porch roof. After the last 2nd span rafter is set into place I drop back and nail everything up. 

2nd span roof rafters
Setting the roof rafters.
Roof Rafters
One rafter left.

This gets me to the end of the day. No rain is expected tonight so I can get away with just a few tarps to cover over the roof. Tomorrow I’ll be installing the new plywood sheathing on the last roof section. We are getting closer to the metal roof installation!

Roof Rafters Section Three

Day #109

October 13, 2019 – Today is a milestone day! I started the roof rafters in section three. It won’t be long until the roof framing is complete.

Toady Frogmeyer came over to see what I was up to. I offered him some coffee but he wasn’t having any of it. Anyway….

Toady Frogmeyer
Toady Frogmeyer comes to visit.

To install the first span of roof rafters I construct a short knee wall. The wall is framed on the ground and then lifted into place atop the the existing exterior wall. After the framing is fastened, it is gusseted with plywood sheathing. This knee wall provides support at the mid span of the roof rafters.

Knee Wall
Constructing the knee wall on saw horses on the ground.
Knee Wall Framing
Knee wall framing set atop the exterior wall.
Plywood Gusseting - Roof Rafters Section Three
The knee wall is covered with plywood and the roof rafter installation begins.

Once the knee wall is complete I begin setting the first span of roof rafters in section three. There are twelve rafter in this last section. I hustled up all twelve rafters and had the last one set in place by about 2:30 PM. At about 3:45 PM I had the blue tarps nailed back down to keep out any inclement weather.

Roof Rafters Section Three
Roof rafters section three are set into place.
Blue Tarps
Roof section three temporary weather protection.

After I cleaned up I headed for home. The renovation and the second span of section three roof rafters will be on hold for the next two weekends. We have a PANA Conference at Bedford Springs next weekend and a SOFA Designer Bag Bingo the following weekend. I’m sure we will soon be fighting the weather and I also have to drain down and water and winter safe the drains. Busy, busy, busy….!

Porch Roof Section Three

Day #108

October 12, 2019 – Yesterday I completed the remaining posts and edge beams. Today the framing at the porch roof section three can begin in earnest.

Old Rafter Tails
Cutting off the old oak rafter tails.

The first order of business is cutting off the old oak rafter tails. On the last rafter tail there is a motion activated spot light. Installed by one of Fanny’s friends decades ago, I can’t remember the last time it actually worked. I had to climb up into the attic and crawl back to the back bedroom to disconnect the wiring. The color and the light coming through the cracks in the roof decking made for a surreal look inside the attic.

Attic Lighting
Strange lighting scene in the rear of the attic.
Motion Activated Light
The old motion activated light to be removed.

Ceiling Joists – Porch Roof Section Three

With the rafter tails and spot light removed I started install the ceiling joists in porch roof section three. Each of the three porch roof sections contains about twelve ceiling joists and twelve rafters. Coincidentally, it takes twelve sheets of plywood to cover a section.

Ceiling Joists Porch Roof Section Three
Ceiling joists in the porch roof section three.

Immediately after ceiling joists comes the installation of the solid bridging. If you are following this blog, you will note that this process is repetitive. I have written about ceiling joists and solid bridging at least two times before. The great thing is that this is the last section so I won’t have to bore you anymore.

Solid Bridging Porch Roof Section Three
Solid bridging installation.

Near the end of the day I finished up the solid bridging. After checking the blue tarps to make sure that we were good if it rains, I headed into town to grab a bite to eat. Downtown OIP & Grille, it is a pizza and beer kind of night!

Solid Bridging & Tarps
Blue tarps in place to dry in the roof.

Tomorrow I’ll start the first span of rafters in the porch roof section three. See you then!

Posts and Beams Porch Roof Section 3

Posts and Beams

Day #107

October 11, 2019 – Today I officially started the last section of the new porch roof. To kick it off I installed the 4 ×4 Douglas Fir posts and built up beams. Since my work hours are limited on Friday due to the lack of daylight at night this is all that I accomplished.

Douglas Fir Post
Douglas Fir post to support the next built up beam.
Built Up Beam
Constructing a built up beam.
Posts and Beams
Built up beam in place above the 4×4 post.

Tomorrow I’ll be installing porch ceiling joists and solid blocking.

Roof Decking, Felt Paper & Shingle Demo

Day #105

October 5, 2019 – Looks like nice weather today. We will be working on the plywood roof decking and felt paper on porch roof, section three. My Tinnler Roofing crew is here doing some shingle demo, taking off old siding and relocating termites. Should be a good day!

Yesterday, before arriving at the Cot-Taj-Mahal I made the obligatory trip to Lowe’s for supplies. I got twelve sheets of plywood for the roof decking and three rolls of 30lb felt paper.

Roof Decking & Felt Paper
Plywood roof decking and felt paper.

The plywood roof decking installation went off without a hitch.

First Sheet
First sheet on roof.
Porch Roof Section 3
Porch roof section three.
Roof Decking
Approaching the top of the roof.

As I was installing the decking my peeps from Tinnler were stripping the shingles off the last roof section and putting them in the dumpster. It was a well coordinated endeavor.

Tinnler Roofing
Shingle demo on the roof section four.
Tinnler On The Job
Cleaning up the shingles.

After the plywood was complete, I rolled out the roofing felt.

Felt Paper
Felt paper installation in progress.

Felt Paper

Working into the evening I covered the entire section. Before coming down off the roof I had to dry in the last section with the blue tarps. We are expecting rain tomorrow and I’d like to keep as much of it out of the Cottage as I can.


It was indeed a good day. We managed to finish the third section of the porch roof. Only one section remains and then we can put on the metal roofing. The deck is looking bigger and better every weekend.

Rinse and Repeat Day Two

Day #104

September 29, 2019 – Rinse and repeat day two. The roof framing in section three continues with the installation of the second span roof rafters.

First I remove the top rows of oak roof planking to gain access to the ridge board. Next I connect the new roof rafters to the existing ridge board with galvanized rafter hangers. The hangers are Simpson Strong-Tie adjustable 2×8 hangers.

Existing Ridge Board - Rinse and Repeat Day Two
Removing top rows of oak roof planking to access the ridge board.
New Rafters - Rinse and Repeat Day Two
New rafters fastened to ridge board with galvanized hangers.

The opposite end of the second span rafter sits on the mid span knee wall. It is nailed to both the knee wall and the first span rafter.

2nd Span Roof Rafters
2nd span roof rafter sit on the mid span knee wall. Rinse and repeat day two.

Eleven rafters complete this section. As always, the last thing that needs done is placing the blue tarps to keep everything nice and dry until next weekend.

Section Three Roof Rafters
Porch roof section three roof rafters complete.
Porch Roof Section 3
Porch roof section three dried in for the weekend.

Next weekend I will install the plywood roof decking and cover this section with 30 lb. roofing paper. After that, it is on to the last section, section four. Hip Hip Hooray!

Rinse and Repeat Day Number One

Bathroom View

Day #103

September 28, 2019 – This weekend I will rinse and repeat the construction sequence that I used on the porch roof section 2. These next couple of posts should be pretty short. Just a brief re-hash.

I finished up the solid blocking between the ceiling joists.

Solid Blocking - Rinse and Repeat
Solid blocking between porch ceiling joists.

Next came the obligatory trip to Lowe’s for framing lumber. My canoe trailer works out great for hauling 16′ pieces of lumber.

Canoe Trailer
Hauling 16′ pieces of lumber with my canoe trailer.

With a fresh supply of lumber, I constructed the mid span knee wall on sawhorses. After it is framed up I lift it onto the roof, over the outside wall, and nail it in place.

Knee Wall Framing - Rinse and Repeat
Constructing the mid span knee wall on sawhorses.

With the knee wall in place I set the first span of roof rafters. This is a nice view of the Lookout and the river.

Knee wall & Rafters - Rinse and Repeat
Mid span knee wall and first span of the roof rafters.

This takes us to the end of rinse and repeat day number one. Tomorrow I’ll continue the second span of rafters in this section. Stay tuned….

First Span Roof Rafters
End of the day. First span roof rafters complete. Placing tarps to keep it dry.

It’s very exciting to be approaching the completion of the framing for the porch roof. It is going to be quite an awesome space!

Section Three Ceiling Joists – Porch Roof Framing

Day #102

September 15, 2019 – Porch roof framing in section three continues today with the installation of the ceiling joists. The joist installation process is the same as it was in section two so I’ll keep this post short.

After setting eleven ceiling joists in section three I started the solid bridging installation.

Ceiling Joist & Solid Bridging
Ceiling joists and solid bridging.

I ended the day a little early so that I wouldn’t be to late getting back home. Next weekend the porch roof framing in section three will continue. I will be finishing up the solid bridging and starting on roof rafters.

Roof Section Three
Roof section three.